How does he know that his description of a Chinese forager 30,000 years ago is accurate? He doesn't tell us. This is just dripping with vague generalisations and unsubstantiated claims - and he bases the rest of the book on their being true. Of course the tigers sometimes caught them, or a snake bit them, but on the other hand they didn’t have to deal with automobile accidents and industrial pollution. That left them plenty of time to gossip, tell stories, play with the children and just hang out. By early afternoon, they were back at the camp to make lunch. They’d roam the nearby forests and meadows, gathering mushrooms, digging up edible roots, catching frogs and occasionally running away from tigers. Thirty thousand years ago, a Chinese forager might leave camp with her companions at, say, eight in the morning. Today, a Chinese factory hand leaves home around seven in the morning, makes her way through polluted streets to a sweatshop, and there operates the same machine, in the same way, day in, day out, for ten long and mind-numbing hours, returning home around seven in the evening in order to wash dishes and do the laundry. The forager economy provided most people with more interesting lives than agriculture or industry do. This example on page 49 is about as substantial as his argument gets: But Harari offers very, very shallow arguments to support the claim and then bases the rest of the book on the assumption that it is correct. This is an interesting argument and it could be true - but it is a very complicated issue and requires very strong evidence and argument to back it up. For example, one of the book's key claims is that the forager/tribal life was more fulfilling and healthier than life in an agricultural and/or industrial society. There were certainly interesting parts, and the final few pages were some of the most interesting.īut I found parts of it incredibly shallow. I read it - i had to force myself to push on and finish it. His "Sapiens" book was a huge bestseller. I noticed that Sam is doing an event with Harari. Islam and the Future of Tolerance (with Maajid Nawaz) For more on what constitutes low-effort comments, please see Rules 2a and 2b. This refers to submissions, not comments. This type of content is welcome at /r/strawmanharris. Too many joke posts in a short amount of time may lead to removal. Posts may be removed and asked to be re-submitted at the discretion of the mods.ĥ) Light-hearted or low-effort submissions such as jokes, memes, etc, may be removed at the discretion of the mods. This is so headlines, titles, and opinions are presented as written and not obscured so discussion may most directly relate to the post. When submitting links, please use the original article's title (and publication date if not current) whenever possible. This rule is enforced selectively by the mods.Ĥ) Please do not editorialize headlines. Duplicate posts or spam posts on the same topic may also be removed. This is to avoid low-effort agenda-pushing and circle-jerking. All non-Sam Harris submissions should be submitted with thoughtful commentary or questions. Users may be asked to explain/justify posts that mention these topics in a comment or additional text. Do report suspected sock-puppet/duplicate user accounts.ģ) Most linked sites or articles should either at least mention Sam Harris explicitly or implicitly or mention or relate somehow to topics/individuals about which Harris has spoken or written. Do not report users simply for being stubborn or sarcastic. Be constructive and open with your discourse, otherwise it's a form of trolling. A person's posting history, past behavior, and the context in which these things occur will be considered.Ģb) This should be self-explanatory. What constitutes any of these things is at the sole discretion of the moderation team, as is the punishment offenders receive. Please do not re-upload or re-host his non-free content.Ģa) Intolerance, incivility against other users, and trolling are not acceptable. For Sam Harris’s work, please link directly to his website for updated posts on his podcast, blog, etc. Please see Rule 3 for which link posts are allowed. In the spirit of Sam's work, this is a place for reason and reasoned discussion.ġ) When submitting links, use the author's original content and/or web address whenever possible. A subreddit dedicated to discussion about Sam Harris's works, opinions, and speaking appearances, as well as other relevant topics.Įveryone is welcome in this subreddit, regardless of religious or philosophical views.
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